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Mod Post: Coloring Help; Major Rule Change

Hi gang,

The launch of coloring_help has proven to be hugely successful. Thanks to aida_rose and her co-mod, the community has achieved two goals: one, it gets curious graphic-makers the help they need, and two, it cleans up icon_tutorial, leaving us better able to assist in the myriad of more specific questions, problems, answers, and tutorials for which we were founded.

Therefore, going forward, there will be two significant changes to the ruleset here.

One: posts ONLY containing the question, "How do I get / make / find this coloring?" will no longer be allowed at icon_tutorial. Posts containing curiosity about coloring as part of a larger question will be allowed to remain. ("When I use a blue exclusion layer on this image, I get that sort of result, so why doesn't it work on this other image?")

Two: Coloring recipes containing ONLY a list of numbers will no longer be allowed at icon_tutorial. If your tutorial says, "Here's where the Curves tool is found, and using it in this way with this tint of base can create this sort of result," or, "Using selective coloring on this image can work better than using exclusion layers," that's fine. If your tutorial says, "-300, 2, 47," it's deleted. [Edit: See the comments for more clarification on this.]

This does introduce a much larger element of moderator discretion into the community than has existed previously, I am aware. However, now that coloring_help exists, it's easiest to direct that kind of specialized question there, the same way we direct font identification questions to fontaddicts. A community of 30,000 is under pressure to be all things to all members, but we have a mission and a goal to guide us, and we've been deviating a little too far from it in the recent past.

These are complicated things to introduce to the community rules as they currently stand, so that is going to be a work in progress for a few days. In the meantime, please don't take it personally and get offended if your post is deleted. It doesn't mean we think you're a bad person; it means that the post broke the rules, and deletion is the only real tool LJ gives us to use.




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Jan. 29th, 2009 03:48 pm (UTC)
I love how icon_tutorial is run and the sub-communities/affliate type communities that have been made; by having things seperate it makes it a lot easier to find things, especially when that one community is the source for that one thing rather than it all being bundled in a bit of a mess :) Its great.
Jan. 29th, 2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
Thanks. It's been an evolving process, really; way back in 2004 everything fit here under one umbrella but as times change, needs change and we try to do what we can to keep up. :)
(no subject) - ofthedawn_x - Jan. 29th, 2009 03:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jan. 29th, 2009 04:04 pm (UTC)

I must admmit that I don't often peek into tutorials, but when I do and see only many numbers and only that style: "selective coloring: [insert 10 numbers]" , I close it imediately, not even a pic to see what you are even changing at the moment...
though there are a lot of cool tuts on here too ^.^
Jan. 29th, 2009 04:06 pm (UTC)
Woot! You guys do a fantastic job here! Thank you :D
Jan. 29th, 2009 04:38 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for this! I know myself that when there are just a bunch of numbers I backspace because I've no use for the tutorial.

You guys do an awesome job here and it's very much appreciated. I've learnt a lot going through the tags and memories since I started using PSCS2 back in the beginning of Dec.
Jan. 29th, 2009 05:07 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
Just a big thank you for such a helpful and wonderful community! I am mainly a vidder, but I want to improve my Photoshop skills and this community (and the news ones you have just made) help me get there. Thank you so very much!
Jan. 29th, 2009 05:13 pm (UTC)
I luvs this community.
Jan. 29th, 2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
I'm a little confused as far as the tutorial expectations go. I've recently been trying to write the numbers to get the effect for the specific icon while explaining what it will do with any other icon,such as "blank" tool will do this and this to your icon...is that acceptable,or...?
Jan. 29th, 2009 05:20 pm (UTC)
If it contains text explanation, while also containing numbers, you're fine.

The kind of post that's out now is the kind that just has an image and says:

Reds: 1, 2, 3
Cyans: 3, 2, 1

You're done!

The kind of post you're describing is actually the sort I'd rather see more of, not less.
(no subject) - shellforbrains - Jan. 29th, 2009 05:23 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - already_used - Jan. 29th, 2009 05:34 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - snnat17 - Jan. 30th, 2009 02:28 am (UTC) - Expand
Jan. 29th, 2009 05:16 pm (UTC)
Love it. Love it. Love it.

This is a great change. I think it's really going to help the icon makers out there.
Jan. 29th, 2009 08:49 pm (UTC)
I think you're doing a great job and moving in the right direction.

There were way too many posts asking for the same coloring over and over again anyway.

And it was getting way too cluttered here with color tutorials that really only work on the image used in the tutorial.

coloring_help is an awesome community as well.

Change is good. ;)

Edited at 2009-01-29 08:50 pm (UTC)
Jan. 29th, 2009 09:12 pm (UTC)
I just want to be clear, as long as you are posting tutorials with adjustment layers that require numbers to input, I have to have an image/explanation about the numbers? I always include what channel the numbers are for and such.
Jan. 29th, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)
It can be a tricky distinction, I admit.

The gist of it is: any tutorial you post in this community should give some indication of how and / or why you are doing something or have made a certain choice. So try these examples:
channel mixer:
reds: [numbers]
greens: [numbers]

When using Selective Coloring, increasing [x value] will have [y effect] on your image. So, because our base image is so yellow, here are the values I used:


There's a big qualitative difference between the two.
(no subject) - miss_jes - Jan. 29th, 2009 09:35 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jan. 29th, 2009 09:13 pm (UTC)
Hooray, you've disallowed all the posts I find annoying! It's like you've been reading my diary!
Jan. 29th, 2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
This is an awesome change in rules - thank you so much! :D You guys are doing an awesome job, and I'm glad to see that this is the direction that the community is going in. :)
Jan. 29th, 2009 11:41 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the second thing! I hate those "recipe" tutorials. Does that mean that the posts will be moderated now, kind of like it was during the holidays, where things will be rejected?
Jan. 29th, 2009 11:48 pm (UTC)
No, we're not putting the community on moderated posting; we'll be deleting after the fact, as per usual.

It's true that moderated posting prevents the problem posts from getting made in the first place, but it interrupts the flow of posts in a large community, and in general I prefer not to do it full-time unless we have to.
(no subject) - capitals_kid - Jan. 29th, 2009 11:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jan. 30th, 2009 01:20 am (UTC)
no it's bad. well if sb is beginer of course is very good, but eg 4 me is not, cos i musta write looonger ;<<
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Jan. 30th, 2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
Yes, because in that example, you're explaining the process: there's a what (vibrance) and a why (dull image) attached.

But the general rule is the more explanation, the better.
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